Sunday, March 8, 2009

Cold

Have you ever heard the song "Cold" by Crossfade? If you haven't I have posted the music video on here. I feel the song is meant for a failing relationship or a already finished relationship. But, if you listen to the words, and take the human relationship aspect out and listen to it and think about it being twords God it is an awesome song in that light. Just imagine that it was written to God. Let me know what you think.

5 comments:

Director of RE & Adult Faith Formation said...

Ok, here is what I think:

1. The lyric "I'm always wrapped up in things I cannot win" speaks of the fact that you could give up that bad thing, but you just don't want to...

2. "Maybe in a different light" - IF one took this song as being to God, the problem is what you are telling God is that He is NOT enough. But what always happens with that, is that we aren't willing to be responsible for the things we know that we have done wrong, as in #1.

3. "Never really wanted you to see" - even more does this make it clear if the song were to God that the person singing or dedicating it thinks they can pin God down and flee. (did you see my wrestling analogy there?)

4. "So many things you should have known." - Faith is hard; as your next post (about Fishers of Men) points out, "being a priest is for real men" but even being a Christian is for real people who are mature enough to recognize in humility, "yeah, you know what I am struggling and I can't do this without help... without God, without family, without friends or whoever." After, all we all need help... ALL of us, because we are not Jesus himself. Rather, he has given us our Holy Mother, the Catholic Church, so that we have the help we need to support one another when there is no on else to turn to.

5. "I guess for me there is no hope." - You should remember that we talked about this in RCIA, this is THE ONLY UNFORGIVABLE SIN. When we see ourselves as much greater than God, no matter our measly-peasely sin, then we don't give him power over us. We cease being his soldiers,BY OUR CHOICE, and we give ourselves to the enemy, and he wipes up the floor with us. We become his b****, if you will allow me the "jail term." Every soldier falls, every soldier gets wounded... but EVERY soldier must get up (or in the Easter season, he must resurrect) if he wants to live... and sometimes it takes other soldiers to get him to the hospital, by encouragement, by calling to him, by taking him by the arm even, but that fallen soldier needs to WANT to be healed. That wounded fighter has to "man up" to the fact that he is important to the war. THE ARMY CAN'T DO WITHOUT HIM BECAUSE HE MAYBE HOLDING AN ELEMENT TO THE WAR THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS!


These would be the unfortunate things if someone took this song to be towards God. That is what I think... what do you think about that?

Jon said...

Okay, So I may have missed a few things that it could be taken as, ha ha ha.
1. I don't think that it mean's you don't want to give that certain thing up. To me it meant that no matter how hard you try, and get away from things something keeps pulling you back and it seem's like you can never get back on top.

2. Its not that God is not enough but that a person can sometimes struggle with their faith, and look at their life and wonder why they aren't putting a different light on their situation and realizing what they need to do. God can be there giving himself to someone and they just don't see it and don't take hold of it and cherish it.

3. I feel that your point on this is pretty true. But my views on it were that when we sin, even if we know what we did when we did it, You don't ever really want God to see your sin's. Although you confess you sin's to God face to face it is still hard to say what you did and face it, But to get over that you need to face it

4. This one to me is very very much to God. I find it hard to believe that you have never been so down about something, like a sin, or a choice you made that you have never thought that for one second, maybe there is no hope. It doesnt mean that you are in a constant state of denial that you are worthless and you are giving yourself to the devil and becoming his b**** but it can be a state of thought that we run into. Now I am not sure if that is a sin or not to think like that, But I can see what your saying. It is like you are giving up because you don't think that you can do it so you just don't try for fear of failure. But that is not how I took it. I took it as letting yourself think for a second that you are not able to do anything right. That to me would be a booster in a way. To go into a Prayer or Adoration thinking that there is no hope, and reflecting on all of the good in your life and all of the strong points you have, you can teach yourself through the Healing poweres of being in the presence of God that there IS hope for you, and that you CAN do anything with God.

That is how I saw the things from that song. I may be wrong(that rhymed) but to me that is how I took it. What are your thoughts on that?

Director of RE & Adult Faith Formation said...

ok here ya go:

1) If something keeps pulling you back, who ultimately has the ability to fight or to give in to that thing that is pullin you?

2) "God can be there giving himself to someone and they just don't see it and don't take hold of it and cherish it." Or in other words, they see their own desires over the joy and gifts that God wants to give them. All of us struggle with this, that is the nature of faith, but at the same time, ultimately, if I make the act of faith I have to persist in knowing that that faith is not unfounded. That is, knowing that GOd is enough even beyond what I can't understand or never desired. You also said one would wonder why "they aren't putting a different light on their situation." And that, my friend is my point: notice who is the one putting the light on their situation. The unfortunate thing about this is that we only see things the way we understand them, "for my ways are not your ways, nor are my thoughts your thoughts says the Lord (Isaiah 55)."

3) Not only that, but the very premise that God can't see our sins is lunacy! God sees everything, it is like now when Gabriel hits Catherine and I am looking right at him, and I say, "Gabriel, why did you do that?" and he'll say, "I don't know." That is at least honest, but when we sin and pretend like God didn't see it, that is plain ole silly. We don't have to "face him" as if he is waiting with a big belt for us to be spanked. He knows it and loves us all the more in our weakness. Not that he wants us to be weak, he just knows we are and pours out his grace on us so that we know how much he truly loves us, and all we must do is accept the gift. There is no hiding, no running, no willing, it is all gift and Mercy is what is given. We just, like Gabriel, have to man up to what we have done, even when we don't know why we did it. Partially because in recognizing our sin, God can give us the grace to overcome it and to understand what caused it.

4) I have been in that place of despair, but only before I came back to Christ. We have to remember Jesus said, "without me you can do nothing," but St. Paul also wrote, "I can do all things through him who strenghens me." The point being, now that we know him, he will never turn his back on us, it is only us who can run from him. His mercy is not fleeting or changing, it is constant. The better way to think is further, it seems to me, "I realy can't do ANYTHING and there is no hope EXCEPT for CHrist. And because I know him and his boundless mercy, I have every and the strongest hope that can never be taken away - even if I do commit any sin you can name." To place ourselves against him in sin should not even separate us from him, from our desire's perspective. Even if I sin, I have to be man enough to know I have fallen and turned away, and know IMMEDIATELY that he will ALWAYS and IMMEDIATELY take me back. Anything short of this is human frailty and weakness which is placing itself above the love of God.

Director of RE & Adult Faith Formation said...

(part II)

For better than "reflecting on all of the good in your life and all of the strong points you have" is to reflect on all the good that God has done in and for you, and that he has always been faithful, and thus hope is always yours, if you want it. In other words, realizing every good thing you have is already a gift, and nothing of your own doing. Nothing you have done is worthy of anything, but even what good things you have done have only come through God and his mercy. He was always working for youand through you, whenever you would respond to grace, even when you didn't know it, before your conversion. Only now we should come to understand the good things we have done are not ours but God's from the git-go. In other words, you are right, but I would take it a step farther and say that as we come to see only God's saving grace in our lives, even our past lives and experiences, we begin to see what happens when we turn from him and just how faithful he has ALWAYS been. This should bear us more hope, but also respect and love for the only Living and True God who has loved us as his own sons. As Jesus said, "What is born of flesh is flesh, what is born of spirit is spirit."

Life, as you probably know, is all about doing away with our own understanding of things and seeing things as they really are. This is where I think this song can be very misleading, since we mere humans can not rely on our human understanding of things. We must abandon ourselves in Love to God if we are truly understand all that has taken place and is taking place around us. All our choices fall into his loving plan of salvaition, though we are the ones who make the bad choices that cause much harder things to take place. His love is manifested in the fact that as beloved children, as St. Paul says in Hebrews, we are being disciplined for our sinfulness. That discipline means we are being taught to think as God thinks, to love as God loves, to see as Jesus sees the world, to love as Jesus loves. This is the great and dynamic adventure. It is never stagnant, never boring, and never self-centered. However, if we get stuck on how we see things, then it becomes a slope down which we slide back into selfishness.

Your turn.

Jon said...

Okay, so you keep catching me. But that is good. It makes me think.

1) The person that has the ability to fight it and not give in is Me. The only way to fight it is to not let yourself give in.

2) The person putting a different light on things would be me. Faith is a struggle and I know that. But sometimes you can take a step back, I dont mean away from Faith all together, what I mean is take a step back and look at what you are doing, look at what you are thinking about and how you are interpreting the way God is working in your life. Even the smallest things that he is doing. take it all in.

3)I wasn't saying that God cannot see our sin's or that he does not know what we are doing or what we have done. Like you said, It was Lunacy to imply that God cannot see our sins. Or that God is "waiting for us with a belt to spank us". But even though he knows our sin's he is waiting for us to come to him. He want's to forgive us, he wants us to be whole with him again. I do not mean to sounbd like I am instructing you(Imagine that!) I was just thinking out loud onto the keyboard ha! I like the analogy with Gabriel and Catherine, It is a good way to look at stuff. There have been times where I have sinned and I stop right after I do it and say to myself, "Self, Why in the world did you do that?" I never have a good answer or reason for doing what I did. It is plain ole silly!

4)I sometimes get to caught up in my human side of things and think that I can do whatever I want because I am in total control of everything. That has never ever worked for me and I don't know why I would keep trying that and failing it! But I do. It is ironic. when my prayer life is going well and things are good, Life seems to work so much better. You can compare it to an clock. When everything is in place, and the cog's Mesh together perfectly and it is a smooth action rotating perfectly and flawlessly. Without a stable and good prayer life it is like one of the cog's is missing a tooth and the corresponding cog cannot grip, and it slips and jumps around, It makes it difficult to keep time and it is not a smooth process like it used to be. I guess I did not fully realize the song could be so misleading. I kind of just took it the way I wanted to hear it and I went with that thought. I never really dove into it and took it apart for all it is worth I guess. You proved a very valid point sir! I stand corrected. I know your intentions were not to shoot down my thoughts or anything, I like that you opened my eyes to the things that I missed. As you said in part II, Life is about doing away with our understanding of things and seeing life how it really is. I was not looking at that song that way. I was looking at it in my own understanding an my own interpretation. Which was incorrect. If i am to be taught to think as God thinks, and to Think like God thinks, I need to start taking more notice to a lot of things. Thank you for opening my eye's a little bit. This has been been good.